Subject	You are what I'm talking about when I say "infighting".
Posted by	zellamay on March 02, 2013 at 8:13 AM
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In Reply To	Yup. LJ's dead-on here. So sad. posted by ForceFedTT (SoCal) on March 02, 2013 at 04:05 AM
Message	You have the wrong enemy. The ultra rich want us to think it's those "lazy people", so we continue to fight amongst ourselves while they raid the coffers. The strain on the system is not from money given to lazy non-workers, it's from rich people using our gov't to make money. Look at laws made in the last 40 years, look at tax and wealth distribution over the last 40 years, and you will see that "welfare" is for the rich. The money given to lazy people who don't want to work is miniscule compared to the money given to large corporations, the defense industry, and the finance industry. (Before you respond to this, look up the dollars for yourself, it's not that hard.)
Follow Ups	New law in Georgia - JMartz 08:32:38 03/01/13 All the government cares about is getting money. (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 09:09:03 03/01/13 Cause corporations and the rich hide their money from taxes. (n/m) - Aqualung 10:16:24 03/01/13 A consumption or flat tax would reduce that. (n/m) - JMartz 10:27:57 03/01/13 Re: A consumption or flat tax would reduce that. - Jonezy 11:05:07 03/01/13 A consumption tax increases tax on the poor, who spend - zellamay 11:59:17 03/01/13 False logic and false math. - ConVerTT 12:25:35 03/01/13 I meant as a percentage of income. Poor people spend 100% - zellamay 16:59:42 03/01/13 Sure, but percentage is irrelevant when you consider the - ConVerTT 18:45:39 03/01/13 You are right again: "percentage", and "absolute" are - zellamay 19:49:10 03/01/13 The "pundits" do not have a uniform opinion on his issue - ConVerTT 21:11:30 03/01/13 Sorry, I searched (cause I'm a curious guy who wants to - zellamay 23:14:16 03/01/13 I misunderstood your last point. I thought you were - ConVerTT 13:05:02 03/02/13 Not true - ZXoltan 12:27:52 03/01/13 It would increase effective tax rate on the poor. - dpjax 12:58:02 03/01/13 A consumption tax by its nature doesnt let rich folks hide - ZXoltan 13:32:17 03/01/13 Except the very very rich. You can see this if you look - zellamay 17:09:36 03/01/13 Ah yes the ever present boogeyman, the super duper duper - LJZTT 03:05:39 03/02/13 gee, who else pitted the poor against the middle-class - LJZTT 03:09:59 03/02/13 Yup. LJ's dead-on here. So sad. - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 04:05:05 03/02/13 You are what I'm talking about when I say "infighting". - zellamay 08:13:39 03/02/13 No, it's true. It's called a "regressive tax" because - zellamay 17:05:16 03/01/13 And where do those so-called "shelters" come from? - LJZTT 04:05:47 03/02/13 You make some good points. I think the hole in your - zellamay 16:05:52 03/02/13 Or, in the words of a pundit, quoted from lower in this - zellamay 16:18:01 03/02/13 ^^^^ This is correct. (n/m) - Whip 14:21:59 03/01/13 in bizarro world maybe (n/m) - LJZTT 02:37:45 03/02/13 Re: in bizarro world maybe - Whip 15:52:11 03/03/13 they hide the money they EARN from those who STEAL - LJZTT 02:31:38 03/02/13 oh nevermind, I figured out the answer - LJZTT 03:13:11 03/02/13 IMO it's immoral to knowingly allow the gov to take ur - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 04:13:51 03/02/13 This isn't new in MA - s3trios 11:34:38 03/01/13 Yeah, we pay sales tax when registering, based on actual - BigTDogg (MA) 14:40:50 03/01/13 Damn Government their always in your pocket - njz 12:05:22 03/01/13 "Don't Steal, The Government Hates Competition" (n/m) - LJZTT 04:41:25 03/02/13 Nothing will change until people start voting out idiots who - Z DNA 12:35:31 03/01/13 You give people too much credit. - bartz32tt 13:57:58 03/01/13 As Pogo said: "We have seen the enemy, and it is us." (n/m) - zellamay 17:14:58 03/01/13 Don't want to make this a political discussion... - Z DNA 00:22:52 03/02/13 Hitler is not a monster that lives in Hollywood folklore - LJZTT 03:22:27 03/02/13 I don't fall victim to trigger words - bartz32tt 10:21:33 03/02/13 Gotta agree with Bart again. "Mainstream media" is a - zellamay 16:15:42 03/02/13 lol, you left out a few, more egregious, offenders (n/m) - LJZTT 09:41:03 03/04/13 Yea, I left out many offenders. I pick on Fox cause it's - zellamay 23:05:03 03/04/13 debatable :) - bartz32tt 12:11:42 03/05/13 However, - bartz32tt 12:16:25 03/05/13 Right on. So why don't we replace every Senator and - zellamay 17:13:21 03/01/13 yeah! down with the Reichstag!!.......er, I mean, Congress - LJZTT 04:21:55 03/02/13 voters are too uneducated/ignorant - LJZTT 04:40:34 03/02/13 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 06:19:55 03/03/13 I thought the ad velorem tax was ridiculous when I moved in (n/m) - komplexZTT 14:13:28 03/01/13 I dont think most folks would mind paying taxes if.... - ZXoltan 15:13:44 03/01/13 I have homes in both GA and FL. I keep FL residency - JMartz 16:02:19 03/01/13 But if you earn money in GA, you are still required to pay - ZXoltan 17:22:19 03/01/13 Thankfully I don't. My wife does but at least one - JMartz 21:13:57 03/02/13 Loose lips sink ships - njz 19:52:27 03/01/13 That's not strictly a government problem - Broke_as_**** 20:02:18 03/01/13 I like this chart better - ConVerTT 13:15:55 03/02/13
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